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BettingLine!: Flagmageddon Day (Part #1)

(Editor’s Note: Everybody likes making a friendly wager once in a while! For Entertainment Purposes Only, of course. That’s why we’re introducing a new category called “BettingLine!”. If Las Vegas won’t take any action on what’s happening here in the Southside region, we will! Not really, because SouthsideCentral discourages all forms of illegal gambling. That would be illegal, folks. Heh.)

When it comes to the Super Bowl, you can place bets on things as ridiculous as the opening coin toss. These types of “proposition bets” are quite popular. For Entertainment Purposes Only, of course. Heh. On Thursday night, Danville City Council will vote on an ordinance that will result in the removal the Confederate flag on the museum grounds and multiple speakers are expected for the final debate on the issue. Let’s take a lighthearted look at some proposition bets for Thursday’s meeting.

Here’s how money lines work. If a money line number is positive like “+400”, you’d have to bet $100 in virtual money to win $400 plus your original bet back. If a money line number is negative like “-200”, you’d have to bet $200 in virtual money to win $100 plus your original bet back. In other words, the higher that the positive number is, the more unlikely that the event will happen.

These prop bets are For Entertainment Purposes Only. Let’s step up to the BettingLine.


Number of Danville City Council members at Thursday’s meeting:

  • 9: -50000
  • 8: +500
  • 7: +4000
  • 6 or less: +25000

Discussion: There is no way in hell that any of the nine council members will miss this meeting unless a serious emergency comes up at the last minute. That occasionally happens, so I’ll put a tempting +500 line on one person being absent. If you love to play longshots, have fun with the last two wagers. You’ll lose with them.


Sherman Saunders moves the flag comments away from the public comment section to the ordinance item on the agenda:

  • YES: -400
  • NO: +200

Discussion: There’s no public hearing required on a change of a city ordinance, but the public comment rules say “Citizens who desire to speak on matters not listed on the agenda will be heard at this time. Citizens who desire to speak on agenda items will be heard when the agenda item is considered.” There’s still a chance that council would want to get all the comments out of the way at the beginning, but I’m thinking that Saunders will do it the same way he did back in November and move the comments to the agenda item.


Number of flag speakers that run out of time to speak:

  • 0: +7500
  • 1 to 4: +800
  • 5 to 8: -350
  • 9 or more: -250

Discussion: I’m predicting that this will be a long night. Under the new council rules, individual speakers have a five minute time limit, and speakers representing a group get ten minutes. Nobody’s used the “group representative” option yet and I don’t think anyone will on Thursday. Somebody’s going to have a timer for this meeting, and I’ll bet that something is rigged up to let speakers know they have one minute remaining. That being said, you can forget about thinking that everyone will finish with time still on the clock (Looking at you, Glenn Scearce). The smart money is on the “5 to 8” option here.


Number of flag speakers:

  • 0: OFF
  • 1 to 10: +700
  • 11 to 20: -500
  • 20 or more: +200

Discussion: Zero speakers? Forget it, there’s no action on that bet. It’s OFF the board. Once we get past the 10 speaker mark, we’ll be getting into the second hour of the meeting and people are going to get cranky. (Fun Fact: I’ll be cranky well before that.) There’s just so much that can be said over & over again and every speaker after #10 will be glared at. I firmly believe that the vote outcome is locked in stone, so no speaker is going to change a council member’s vote. I think you can safely make a little virtual money laying the -500 line here.


Number of speakers on any other topic besides the Confederate Flag:

  • 0: -1500
  • 1: -200
  • 2 or more: +800

Discussion: There’s a chance that Duke Energy’s Davis Montgomery might come and do a coal ash spill update. He hasn’t been around for six weeks but if he’s paying attention to current events, he’ll stay way clear of this meeting. Alonzo Jones & John Gilstrap will talk about Saturday’s College Bonanza 2015 in the around the horn section, I’m sure. None of these money lines look playable to me, and I’m the one who set them. That’s a hint.


Highest number of uniformed Danville Police Officers in Council chambers at any time during the meeting:

  • 1: +900
  • 2 or 3: -250
  • 4 or more: +150

Discussion: There’s always one Danville police officer at every council meeting for security, so the bet is really how many more will be there. In the last meeting, two additional uniformed officers were sent up to the 4th floor when the crowds got large. There’s been no security issues during this flag debate and I believe that will continue. If I was betting this line, I’d lay the -250 line and be tempted to go with the “4 or more” option as a little insurance. For Entertainment Purposes Only, of course. Last one for Part #1 coming up!


The vote on the flag ordinance will be:

  • 9-0: +10000
  • 8-1: +250
  • 7-2: -2000
  • 6-3: +1000
  • 5-4: +2500
  • Ordinance fails by any vote: +6000
  • If the ordinance is amended in any way, NO ACTION.

Discussion: I’m still sticking to the 7-2 prediction that I had in the BreakDown article. The only wild card that I could possible see is Buddy Rawley voting “Yes”. Fred Shanks isn’t going to budge, so don’t waste your virtual money on the 100:1 longshot. And you need to note the NO ACTION cancellation of this bet. I don’t think any council member will try to carve out an exemption for the monument property, and I certainly believe that wouldn’t get the five votes needed to amend the ordinance change… but the NO ACTION warning is there anyway.


And there you have seven proposition bets on this BettingLine! If I haven’t said For Entertainment Purposes Only enough, I just said it again. We’ll try to come up with some more for another BettingLine article before Thursday’s meeting.

sclogo

14 comments to BettingLine!: Flagmageddon Day (Part #1)

  • Arlene creasy

    You are probably right on all you betting items. Meeting will be interesting and very lengthy. Enjoy your writings.

  • GRITS(girl raised in the south)

    I certainly appreciate that speakers get a chance to voice their opinions, but it is not going to change a thing. The back door deal is done. But remember these are some of the same rocket scientists who supported the sale of the hospital, passed millions out to all the crooks who came here just to get the money and then left and blames the flag for holding back new business ventures. They need to focus on crime, education and the repayment to the Tobacco Commission. So the history of being the Last Capitol of the Confederacy means nothing; one flag that actually is located at the site will be gone and the 2 sons of confederate license plates registered in the city of Danville will also be gone. Hope somebody will be happy because you can bet nothing else will change.

  • GRITS

    SC, you have written a great article,as usual. When I stated education, I meant the city school system and it’s notable % of high school graduates. However, your serious thought is well taken and it is correct. Let us remember the destruction of things historical lead to the road of Marxism and/or Stalinism. Today a flag and monuments, tomorrow the privately held guns and the day after seizure of assets. My thoughts are not about racism, it is about the direction this country is taking. If all things Confederate are destroyed or removed because some people feel it is racist, where will this stop? Will the homes and statues of our fore fathers of America who owned slaves be the next in the destruction? The United States of America is getting more about special interests everyday. What has happened to us?

    • But that’s the thing. No rational person has proposed anything more than this ordinance here. Slippery slope arguments don’t work in court, nor do they work with me.

      And sadly, flag supporters have done more to hurt their cause than to help it this round and the last round too.

  • The best part of this whole deal is the goof made by the city attorney that will not allow the flags on Bridge Street to fly. I understand this will be remedied quickly but once again a rush to judgement without thinking through the ramificactions.

  • NicoleH

    The City Council should forget this ordinance and just take a vote on the Confederate flag flying at the Sutherlin Mansion. Either way they will have to have a day in court and if they just vote on the one flag they want removed all the unseen problems with this ordinance will be avoided. Bridge Street has already been an obstacle that needs to be cleared and in the future who’s to say there won’t be other flags (after all who foresaw the POW/MIA flag) that citizens (or government officials) might want to display.

    • That’s not going to happen because a breach of contract suit attorney would jump on that as a “blatant defiance” on the terms. With this ordinance, the city’s defense could be “evolving landscape of public sentiment” or “past councils can’t legally bind future councils in perpetuity”.

  • Rebel

    How does Virginia public law preventing desecration of memorials and the resolution signed with Historic Preservation Association play into all this? Sounds like a lengthy and costly lawsuit for the city to me. Not to mention your councilman may not honor written agreements or pay particular attention Virginia law.

    • For the memorial part, the legal argument could be the flag isn’t an integral part of the monument. For the contract part, the legal argument could be can a past council bind all future councils for life?

      • Lee Smallwood

        The statute also talks about prohibiting replacing Union markings with Confederate markings and vice versa. A flagless pole may not fall within the reach of the statute. Finally, reading the statute to make flags monuments would mean they couldn’t be taken down at night or in bad weather.

  • WEC

    This is crazy,this is no game!

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